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General Overview?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:56 pm
by NetStar
Can somone just sum this up?

can anyone just log onto to somone's wireless? That's really interesting.

Any help welcome.

eh?

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:27 pm
by uhtu
hrm? sum what up?

wigle.net is the worlds largest aggregation of observed wireless network beacons. we draw maps, and keep stats. Seeing a network listed on this site means that someone at somepoint in time correlated a network beacon and a gps signal, and then told us about it. that's it.

its like train spotting for networks.

Whether or not you have permission to use a network is up to you and the operator of the network, as with anything else.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:22 am
by NetStar
So in that case, and with the info you've provided, the idea is, you can just link up to a network?

Thanks for replying.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:49 am
by Dutch
So in that case, and with the info you've provided, the idea is, you can just link up to a network?

Thanks for replying.
No. Connecting to networks you haven't got explicit permission to utilize is a crime.
Wardriving has nothing to do with connecting to networks.
As phrased by one of the patrons of wardriving :
WarDriving v.
The benign act of locating and logging wireless access points while in motion. -blackwave 2003.

Dutch

sigh

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:15 pm
by uhtu
willful ignorance aside, to reiterate Dutch's point:
Don't Use Things You Don't Have Permission To.

wigle.net is a cataloguer of information and drawer of maps, not a permission generator.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:11 am
by NetStar
That makes a lot more sense now.

But that stuff, conecting, still happens?

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:32 pm
by Dutch
That makes a lot more sense now.

But that stuff, conecting, still happens?
Not by wardrivers, only by criminals.

Wardrivers using Windows, disable the TCP/IP protocol = no connection possible.
Wardrivers using *nix, use RF-MON mode, which is passive = no connection possible.

So it is only people who are intent on connecting to networks, that are doing so, and they are pr. definition not wardrivers, but just criminals. It is really as simple as that.

Dutch

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:42 am
by argh
NetStar, you may need to learn more about both wireless networking and wardriving ethics. In other news, hammers and screwdrivers can be used to break into buildings.